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Letters to the EditorAll lettersOnly Editors' ChoicesNewest FirstOldest FirstLetters posted here are associated with the following article: The "Bomb Iran" contingent's newfound concern for The Iranian People Many of those now expressing solidarity with "The Iranian People" have been recently advocating bombing them.

Glenn Greenwald [2009-06-16]The letters thread is now closed.Page 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 Next Page >> Their cynicism is obviousThe neocons who are now expressing such empathy for the Iranian people are, I'm sure, delighted with the outcome of the election.

Had a more moderate individual been elected that would have impeded their campaign for military action against Iran, a campaign which I'm sure, they intend to ratchet up in coming months.

So, we have the archtypical unholy alliance, Iranian clerics and the Cheney-Bolton-Lieberman-New Republic gang.-- stevieboy [Read stevieboy's other letters]Permalink Flag Tuesday, June 16, 2009 05:09 AMClick "Submit Flag" if you feel this post is inappropriate.

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CancelImages from IranThe best hate destroying images from Iran I've seen in a while came from this Youtubehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLX9ChtWBGo-- bilejones [Read bilejones's other letters]Permalink Flag Tuesday, June 16, 2009 05:11 AMClick "Submit Flag" if you feel this post is inappropriate.

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CancelYou ask the easy questions, Glenn.What would have happened if the "Bomb Iran" contingent had its way?To be sure, the reactions of a McCain Administration to these events would have doubtless been counterproductive, perhaps even inflaming an actual confrontation with Tehran in either the Gulf or Iraq.Or they would have been greeted with howls of laughter and derision, especially if Vice-President Palin took the stage.Thank the gods we'll never know.

Watching them twist themsevles into rhetorical prezils is amusing enough.-- Iokannan in the Well [Read Iokannan in the Well's other letters]Permalink Flag Tuesday, June 16, 2009 05:16 AMClick "Submit Flag" if you feel this post is inappropriate.

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CancelThe revolution will not be televised...But it is being tweeted.Persian Kiwi has been providing up to the minute, blow by blow tweets from streets (of Tehran) since the election ended.http://twitter.com/persiankiwiIf that doesn't humanize it for you, I don't know what will.-- 23skidoo [Read 23skidoo's other letters]Permalink Flag Tuesday, June 16, 2009 05:19 AMClick "Submit Flag" if you feel this post is inappropriate.

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CancelWe can't bomb them, now that we know ......

they use Twitter.-- bearpaw1 [Read bearpaw1's other letters]Permalink Flag Tuesday, June 16, 2009 05:21 AMClick "Submit Flag" if you feel this post is inappropriate.

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CancelGood FaithThis post illustrates some of the problems I have with a sort of off topic discussion that took place in the comments section of yesterday's first post.

Towards the end of this discussion, RMP wrote:....Even The Dick had good faith in the need to invade Iraq, torture terrorists and make the executive branch far more powerful than the other branches....No, his motives are much baser, and the phrase "good faith" should not be used.RMP continues:....Standing on your own principles as inviolate, and refusing to recognize that others can have different principles, is also mostly counter-productive.Even worse is assuming that you understand someone's principles, when you have made no effort to learn about them....No, you have to be willing to recognize the lack of principles when you see it.

Learning about someone's principles must include realizing that you really do have principles and that many that you thought did simply do not.In that crowd are those that Glenn mentioned today who scream "Bomb Iran" and then claim sympathy for the Iranian people when it is convenient.

It is a lack of principles that drives most who seek the highest levels of political and financial power.-- Mike Sulzer [Read Mike Sulzer's other letters]Permalink Flag Tuesday, June 16, 2009 05:22 AMClick "Submit Flag" if you feel this post is inappropriate.

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Rice had been ignored?"If we quit now, we will abandon Iraq's democrats at their time of greatest need," she said.

"We will embolden every enemy of liberty and democracy across the Middle East.

We will destroy any chance that the people of this region have of building a future of hope and opportunity.

And we will make America more vulnerable." - Sec.

of State Condoleezza Rice, September, 2005 http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S12/81/19E18/?section=featuredIf Iran can form some sort of democracy, if the people of that country are permitted to select their leaders, we will all be better off.Obviously, we're not their yet.Spreading democracy throughout the middle east was a goal of the Bush administration.There are people in Iran who expect to be able to select their leaders, as they do in neighboring Iraq (which the nay-sayers said would not happen).-- NotOrbitBoy [Read NotOrbitBoy's other letters]Permalink Flag Tuesday, June 16, 2009 05:24 AMClick "Submit Flag" if you feel this post is inappropriate.

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CancelABSOLUTELY AMAZING.You are the first place I come to everyday for news.

I tell my wife that newspapers or really old papers and whatever they tell one (excluding sports cores) should be presumed to be lies.It is no different here, Okinawa, Japan where I live surrounded by 50,000 military members.

dependents, and contractors.

The old-papers here are no differnet.

They say whatever Tokyo demands they say.It is, indeed, a sad state of affairs when the only way americans can find out the REAL news is from YOU (and a few precious others like you) or by watching the late night comedy circles.Edward R.

Murrow and Walter Winchell are turning over in their graves.Thank G-d for You Glenn.

Although born of strict Orthodox jewish parents (may They r.i.p), my beliefs now lean much more toward Hindu/Budhist beliefs, and I pray for You every day, for all you do for me, other, and the world.-- mark aleshnick [Read mark aleshnick's other letters]Permalink Flag Tuesday, June 16, 2009 05:25 AMClick "Submit Flag" if you feel this post is inappropriate.

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CancelAmericans have many reasons to be embarrasseda population believes an election was stolen and their votes disenfranchised and they actually take to the streets and demand justice.

Just what you'd expect in a country where people are supposedly raised to believe in democracy and the rule of law.Except of course that this is happening in Iran.-- 23skidoo [Read 23skidoo's other letters]Permalink Flag Tuesday, June 16, 2009 05:29 AMClick "Submit Flag" if you feel this post is inappropriate.

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CancelbilejonesThanks for the linky.Pictures really are powerful.

(All the MORE reason, IMHO, to release the ACLU photos, but that's a different topic).-- bamage [Read bamage's other letters]Permalink Flag Tuesday, June 16, 2009 05:36 AMClick "Submit Flag" if you feel this post is inappropriate.

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CancelI just woke upBut still, NotOrbitBoy, your post seems unusually stupid.

Yes, with only a few 100,000 Iraqi lives, thousands of American lives and a trillion US dollars, Iraq is still only an incipient democracy.

Huzzah.

Meanwhile, the point is that around the world countries are able to move from tyranny toward greater democracy ALL BY THEMSELVES, and IT WORKS BETTER THAT WAY.

Get it yet?-- The Professor [Read The Professor's other letters]Permalink Flag Tuesday, June 16, 2009 05:37 AMClick "Submit Flag" if you feel this post is inappropriate.

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CancelGod save us from these peopleAhmedinejahd came into power as a response to the neocon crowd.

He was their dream come true - a cartoonish brown person who spouted idiocy about Holocaust denial.

Two weeks after Obama's Cairo speech indicating a different attitude towards the Middle East, we suddenly see Iranian society demanding change.And its driving them c-r-a-z-y.

Google the AIPAC response to the Iranian riots.

One can almost taste the sour grapes.

All of their rhetoric about "freedom" and "spreading democracy" are exposed as bald faced opportunism in the face of real change occuring now in Iran.Seldom has an ideology been so thoroughly debunked in so short a time.-- Feliatrix [Read Feliatrix's other letters]Permalink Flag Tuesday, June 16, 2009 05:39 AMClick "Submit Flag" if you feel this post is inappropriate.

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CancelBomb IranTwo word solutions to complex problems are rarely the wisest choice.Also see: Border Fence, Regime Change, and Ignore Science.-- trend2121 [Read trend2121's other letters]Permalink Flag Tuesday, June 16, 2009 05:41 AMClick "Submit Flag" if you feel this post is inappropriate.

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CancelNotOrbitBoy"Spreading democracy throughout the middle east was a goal of the Bush administration."Speaking of outrageously ludicrous statements...You *are* referring to the self=admitted war criminals Condoleeza Rice and G.W.

Bush, are you not?-- Northwestwoods [Read Northwestwoods's other letters]Permalink Flag Tuesday, June 16, 2009 05:43 AMClick "Submit Flag" if you feel this post is inappropriate.

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http://letters.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/06/16/iran/view/?show=all
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